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California finally has a bill in the works that could be passed as soon as this November that would legalize use and sales of marijuana. Marijuana would still be taxed with a $5 tax to sell an eighth ounce of Marijuana and a $50 tax for the growth of one marijuana plant. If this bill passes, it has many implications, but hardly any of them I see as bad. |
Many people fear an increase in the number of potheads if this bill is passed but that is not likely. In fact, the legalization of marijuana may actually decrease the number of potheads. Back in the 1920s when prohibition was in full swing, alcohol reached the height of its popularity as everyone, including law enforcement officials rushed to get a drink. It also gave rise to Al Capone and a huge band of criminals because the smuggling of alcohol registered such huge profits. There was some thrill for everyone of doing something illegal. I figure right now, its much the same with marijuana, especially among the younger generation. Many kids just do it to look “cool” or to feel like they are older. When the ban is lifted, I bet at least some of these kids will stop.
It will also pull the plug for many drug dealers that depend on selling weed as a vital source of income. Since you can get a license to sell legal weed anywhere, I doubt many people will risk jail just to buy illegal weed. Plus, market competition will force many of these dealers out of business as no one will buy a eighth ounce for $80 when they can get it for $60. The prices will drop to a acceptable market level and the profit for dealers will dwindle into nothing. Overall, I’d say allowing the legal sale of marijuana is a good thing as its not addictive and is no worse for people than alcohol is.
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Where the hell are you paying 80 bucks for an 8th? You’re getting ripped off, man. That’s only worth 40.
rofl@rocktopod FOR REALZ YO!
I would pay $50, maybe $60 if I could buy it in a store, and it was like premium delicioso. Anywho, I believe that alcohol is much worse, and thats my opinion.
I can get 8th of mids for $30…$80 must be some killer ganja!
I’m with Rocktopod!
Around these parts I can get an eighth of your standard m-39 for $25. I don’t even pay $80 for a quarter of an ounce.
40 is stress I’d say 50 you’re getting something good and 60 its some bomb shit. 80 yea you’re getting ripped thats a good price for a 1/4
dude what are you talking about. i get my dank for $50/8th. taxes on weed would bring the price to a higher $55-$60/8th. and no i wouldn’t support it. selling weed needs to remain underground. just too many impediments for buyer/seller if it were legalized
The above commenter obviously has a limited knowledge of this subject is respect to quality and location.
However, marijuana is indeed addictive. Mentally, not physically, but addictive none the less.
I grow a “Hindu-Kush”variety.It goes for $200.00 a oz.You can’t smoke more than a bong-hit or two!
ANYTHING can be mentally addictive. that’s not an argument. as long as it’s not physically addictive, it’s all good. yay for the legalization of weed!
You guys have to put it into perspective. This is Cali and prices may very well be a lot higher there. So your prices don’t mean much unless you are in Cali itself.
Not only that since it will be manufactured it will be REALLY good. Hydro good =)
The problem with this is that any state can legalize whatever they want. But because of the FEDERAL war on crimes, the DEA can still come in and arrest you on FELONY POSSESSION of a controlled substance, even though its legal in your state.
Marijuana is legal by prescription only in California at the moment, and drug busts go down weekly there on the dispensaries. Watch the movie SUPER HIGH ME for a glimpse into how fucked up the federal government is on this.
Oops, I meant federal war on DRUGS.
Actually i am with this, imagine government funding, to build and breed better ridiculously potent plants, no more drug tests, no borrowing piss, no drinking sunny detox, or chugging cranberry juice. unless you’re sniffing, or shooting, then its all your fault, but all in all its a smarter move for both consumer and distributor. consumer would be free to make the jump from weed head to weed connoisseur, and the dealer, could just work at a shop, there will be no more weed season.
yeah right, i pay 9 billion (USD) an eighth
Sorry guys, the Supreme Court’s decision in Gonzales v. Raich has firmly established that the Federal government has jurisdiction (including the enforcement of federal anti-drug laws)over plants grown on private land for personal use based on the Commerce Clause. It actually goes all the way back to FDR and the new deal where the stacked supreme court held in Wickard v. Filburn that the federal government could prevent a farmer from growing food for his family.
Remember this next time you hear from a candidate that wants the federal government to solve all of your problems, its wolf in sheep’s clothing.
nice article.
I think that a $25.00 to grow and a harvest tax of 40.00 per ounce might work better, and a limit of 80 ozs for outdoor harvest, with indoor taxed at a nominal value on the size of the pot and dry weight estimate. Clones should be made into a Tax market as well. The state could make up to 3 on site visits, or use self taken cell phone pictures per year with the tax compliance agent trained as an extension agent to help the growers.
Well, not sure where any of you guys are from. The standard going rate for an 8th is 60 bucks. The hook-up is 45-50. I am talking heady nugs. If you are getting it for 30, you must be the dope mans brother or your talking out your ass. I went to college in Colorado…dank everywhere you looked…60 bucks an eighth.
dedicate the net revenue to children’s health care, half to uninsured and under insured kids and the other half to people who have coverage but are denighed due to the “experimental” nature of treatment. Then if the treatment works or if in the next 5 years it becomes a covered treatment bill the health insurer to recover money to the fund.
Marijuana is mentally addictive, but so is cake. Both can hurt you if you abuse them but in moderation they’re fine.
Although many believe marijuana to be mentally addictive, it is only the ego that has the power to control the addiction,therefor if you have control of your ego you can surpass the mental addiction. Truly, a mental addiction can be broken by strong thought over one matter. Further more, in todays society, mental addiction is every where. Some of the most common being, fast food, face book, pornography, sex, and all of which are physically harmless. It could possibly be a personal issue your dealing with that may related to your own mental addictions, other than smoking pot, which encouraged you to post a comment as such.
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For store sales, the tax rate could be set to .50 or .75 cents per gram for each % of THC in that type of bud. Seeded old line mex strains would then sold on a par with the like of White Rhino, Indica, Hindu-Kush, and Blueberry. And last but not least the state MUST REQUIRE a State Buyers License to get around the Supreme Courts ban on pot that might find its way into Interstate Sales or the Feds will SHUT IT DOWN.
My God I can tell by the prices you poor guys are paying for weed that you are most likely living in the States. I am up here in Canada and the most I have ever paid for even a 1/2 oz is $100
I think it’s hilarious how no one comments on the actual making pot legal, and why they are for it or against it, but instead about how the example (which was likely not checked for facts but just thrown out to illustrate the point) is a complete ripoff.
The price isn’t the point, it’s the concept of weed being cheaper than what the dealers sell it at.
(On a side note, that price is pretty freakin’ crazy. When I quit smoking weed a few years ago, that price would get you at least a half of “not too great, but would get you high”)
The above commenter is obviously an asshole & should be shot.
you dudes would compare prices of an eighth of bud.
…80 is still expensive. and for blueskoop, you are retarded. you still have to factor in the price of tickets that you’ll potentially get during your bud smoking career. so you’re pretty much an idiot for not supporting this, seeing as you are a a bud smoker. also there is no difference between “mental addictiveness and physical addictivness. you’re mistaking dependence and addiction. you can become dependent on pot, but in no way addicted. huge difference. it has literally the same dependent forming ability as nasal spray or eye drops.
I get weed $30 an eighth. Great stuff too. If marijuana was legalized I would not pay for pot. I would grow my own. You can’t have illegal pot if pot is legal.
Lol @ how the stoners suddenly begin to ignore the article and talk about pot.
I don’t think that the number of potsmokers will increase. Your point with younger people and whatnot could be quite true, but then you also have to think about the people that don’t smoke pot because it’s illegal. I also think a lot of the older people from the 60s and 70s who stopped smoking pot when it became really illegal would start again. With everyone that stopped and the new people that started, I think the number would stay about the same, which isn’t really horrible.
PissedAndPetty, though marijuana is mentally addictive, it’s certainly no worse than alcohol OR tobacco. If anything, people will stop polluting California because they’ll be too lazy to drive, and the food market will increase because people will be buying a lot more munchies now that they can legally be high..
The price was to illustrate a point. I don’t know how much the going price is right now. Last I heard it was somewhere around $50-$60
Not a bill (which would be voted on by the state legislature), a proposition that will depend on the popular vote in November if it gets that far. So California residents should be aware to get off their asses and register, and archbob should make the correction so they get that message.
“Sorry guys, the Supreme Court’s decision in Gonzales v. Raich has firmly established that the Federal government has jurisdiction
Remember this next time you hear from a candidate that wants the federal government to solve all of your problems, its wolf in sheep’s clothing.”
True, but then if the feds had a bill to legalize pot nationwide, who among us would argue? States’ rights are great, but that’s a hopeless battle.
In any case, the more people fight the good fight, the better, so this can’t be bad news.
Heh, no one is commenting on the article at all, they are just arguing about how much they pay for weed! Typical internet crowd…
A legal state in the US? That’s definitely a step up for us!
I live in California, and it’s $50 an eighth. $40 if you’re lucky, and $60 for the bomb stuff.
The way California is right now, I wouldn’t be surprised if the bill passed, after all, California was the first state to accept marijuana for medicinal purposes.
Anyone who pays more than 40 an eighth is getting ripped off. I know of people who pay 1200 for a hp. They are not the growers brother. Thats 150 an oz. or 18 bucks an eighth. 40 bucks for an eighth is more than 100% profit.
seriously $80 bucks for an 1/8th?!?!?!…that shit better be some killer killer danky bud! i never pay that much for an 1/8th and my shit is pretty good lol
i pay £20 for an 1/8 lol so thats $39.8 and so does every one , its a score for a bag of skunk … no one varies the price around here
In Amsterdam you can buy grass and hash from coffeeshops. Take a look at this menu: http://www.coffeeshop.freeuk.com/Grph/ShopMenu.jpg
A (pre-rolled) joint costs aroung 3-4 euros. Stronger varieties cost more, so there is a wide range in prices. 1.7 grams usually costs around 12-25 euros which means prices are higher than in the US.
The thing I really like in Amsterdam is that I know what I am smoking. You can try different strains and see what you like most. I really like Shiva: http://www.marijuanastrains.com/shivamarijuana.html
I don’t think that the people posting about the crazy price are even reading the replies.
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WHAT !!!! 80 Bucks for a freakin 8th get the fuck out, i pay 5 bucks for an 8th.
I pay $25 for a fat quarter…..$80 for an oz.
Some of y’all are getting screwed. Remember, it II weed and it DOES grow on ‘trees’.
this is stupid. California is not doing this.
anyways, 35 a quarter is normal for normal weedeveryone seems to be getting ripped
You are forgetting one major problem. The federal government doesn’t recognize weed in the same way. They are busting Med dispensaries, do you really think the Feds will ignore shops that sell just because the state says it’s legal. We lost most of our states rights in the Civil War.
Maybe on day…
“Marijuana would still be taxed with a $5 tax to sell an eighth ounce of Marijuana”
Bullsh*t!
I use it in brownies, and that makes it food.
You can’t tax food!
somebody said something about the federal law over the state, which is true. However, Barney Frank (my freaking hero, man) has recently put into the house the idea (just an idea, so far, no legislation that i know of) to lift the federal ban, and leave it to states to decide on marijuana. he has backing from governors and senators from NY and CA, and i think one of ours here in CO.
i live in denver, where weed is “legal” as of 07, but because the state and federal laws still make it illegal, marijuana arrests and fines have gone up nearly 20% since the bill was passed. so this is a huge step in the right direction.
things like the 420 rally in boulder, a lot of peaceful people just having a good time, shows that marijuana isnt the danger that the Reefer Madness believers say it is. it is less harmful than alcohol or tobacco, all sorts of medicinal uses, on top of industrial hemp. the fact that it is a class 1 drug is ludicrous.
$80 for an EIGHTH?! Jesus… Here, I can get a half-ounce for $100, granted it isn’t GREAT, but it’s not bad at all, and still gets you wrecked…
I could probably get an eighth for like $30 if I had to :/
prices vary with dankness of nug, whoever’s paying 5 for an eighth is probably getting some shake from an oz of shwag or mids. The price isn’t the point of the article. Rep. Barney Frank is working on a bill to federally decriminalize posession of 100g of marijuana, leaving it up to the State Government for regulation. http://www.house.gov/frank/marijuana041708.html
All California is doing is working on the State’s regulation.
Unfortunately Curtis, the tenth amendment states that
“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
So, unless Congress recently made a Constitutional amendment that states that marijuana is illegal, then California’s legalization has precedence over the DEA and the fed gov’s bullshit.
50/8th for beast, 60/8th for dank headies. zips for 340-360
You strugglin with that 80 eighth
Idiots. Marijuana has been legal in the Netherlands for a long time now. A single gram of weed that is far more potent than your 80 dollar eighth of an ounce will cost you only 8 euros, which is roughly 12 dollars. This is what happens to an open and legal market. All it takes is a few shops to open up and figure out how to sell weed at extremely low costs, and you will see the price drop down dramatically. You have no idea how cheap it can be.
So does anyone care about legalization or is everyone here to argue prices likes a bunch of dumbasses. Legalization would be great and hopefully would bring prices down because of availability, or you could just grow that shit yourself.
How many cannabisheads know who Marc Emery is?
Well, the 10th amendment says that the States are under the Federal Govt, but since the constitution says nothing of the illegality of marijuana, the states have the freedom of choice. Even george washington had fields of marijuana back in the day. At one point in (what was to be) USA you were legally allowed to pay taxes in hemp.
$40 is standard where ever iv’e been (washington,oregon,texas) in portland i get good shit for $40 and the dank for $50
As has been said before, too much paying attention to the price of weed. I know the standard price in California and i’m not even going to argue that because in this case, it’s kinda irrelevent, except for the fact that legalization should bring the price down.
Price aside; legalization in California would be a great starting point for the rest of the US to follow. Eventually the Fed would have to just suck it up and say “Alright, we’ll federally legalize it.”
If California can do it right, by regulating the tax, the price, and also age limit (haven’t seen a response mention this yet), then we could begin to prove to the rest of the US that it is possible. IMO, crime would lessen, less drug related charges and incarcerations would occur, and overall, not as many people would smoke etc… People would have to be accountable for their decision to smoke, much like their decision to drink alcohol.
Case and point, California legalization would be a good thing and could lead to federal reform in Marijuana laws…
i say let the gov tax it at a reasonable rate, or even an inflated rate to start with, as long as its legal !!
this might be a good idea. what I would like to know is: would there be a fine for underage users and what would the fine be. Also, we have dui laws. would they be the same for pot.If a person grows pot and dosen’t pat the $50 tax for the growth of one marijuana plant will the feds arrest him for not paying federal taxes. I would think the IRS would jump right on this.
shit. the other day i just bought an 8th for $15
more and more often people want that marijuana to be legalized…but why?they will smoke it no mather what
wtf? Are you kidding me 1/8th for 80, 60, 50???!
An eighth of an ounce is 3.5 grams, I get 7-8grams for 20 in Oklahoma, granted its not always super dank but there is no way in hell I’d go as far as to pay 60 for an eighth. Anyone know what the legal age to purchase and possess will be?
Did anyone read this article. It’s about making nug legal so that crime will decrease. Since pot is essentially the drug with the least amount of danger, there would be no harm to decriminalize it. Instead of all of you bitching and moaning about the prices, why dont you think abotu the years you will spend in prison is you get caught with a few plants. Now, i smoke on a fair occasion, and i think you who do should all agree that paying an extra few bucks is worth keeping your ass tight.
Ok Marijuana is not Legal ANY! Where! in the world Not even in Amsterdam. It will never be legal here, if you thinking it will be treated like tabacco.
NOW THIS MIGHT BE A REVALATION TO ALL YOU STONED INDIVIDUALS OUT THERE BUT WHAT ABOUT DE-CRIMINALIATION! YEAH, I THOUGHT SO NOW TAKE ANOTHER TOKE OF YOUR EXPENSIVE WEED EVEN THOUGH ANY IDIOT WITH HALF OF BRAIN AND TEN SEEDS CAN GROW THIS STUFF. YEAH EVEN THE KIND FROM AMSTERDAM.
DE-CRIMINALIATION not LEGALIZATION
The current drug laws in the US are absurd and basically boil down to thought crime. The war on crime causes more harm and costs an absurd amount of money that could be spent on legitimate things.
Go Legalization
BTW I buy an eight for 10$
Yay I’m stoned
Hey everyone just so you can know, here in mexico an eight wont cost you more than $5 dollars.
I’m all for legalization don’t get me wrong but I’m affraid that our prices will go up with taxes and won’t let us buy as much
Momo If we could get eighths from the Feds for $10 then I’m all for the taxes in it but If it’s like $60 for an eighth plus tax FUCK THAT!
Ro-Sham-Bo, I’m sure they’ll lower their prices once the system gets off the ground, they may even start offering multiple varieties at different prices, but it’s progress. If they charge too much, people will still go to the street anyway, and tax stamps are what got this whole underground market started. They (feds) wanted you to buy a $5000 stamp in order to possess a few grams of marijuana. clearly it was a prohibitionistic tactic, but it’s the only way they could get it to pass through congress, and even then, only by a 5-4 vote.
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man i dont know about all that. lemme tell you something, i live in the 305 and here its 50 an E and if youre getting yours for 25 then you arent getting good weed, i dont givafuck where you are. if weed is legalized it will lower in price, the only reason its so expensive as it is is because of the risk in growing it. if you consider that its 50 or 60 per plant to grow one if its legal (at least in cali), then you can consider at least 2 ounces MINIMUM you could grow from that for 50 OR 60 BUCKS. that aint shit. Also i been to cali and weed was the same price it is here. SO, if your worry is higher prices in this hypothetical and awesome future, then grow your own. besides that all it does is keep innocent people out of jail and saves tax money. wzup
im from the bay area, ca. most of the bud around here is pretty dank (lets just say i havent gotten any bad or low quality bud in a while, unless its shake i buy purposefully) and it goes for 40 an eight average. 50 if its really cryp. iv never boughten bud anywhere else but it seems to me that those getting eights for like 10 bucks may not be getting the best stuff. usually the cheaper stuff is shitty mexican weed filled with leaves and stems. the bud around here is frothy, covered with crystals and 100 pure dense nugs (minus the naturally occuring stems). but like i said, thats just the way it is around here. whoever pays 80 an eighth better be smoking straight up keef or theyre gettin ripped
trust me, weed is addictive. I’ve been smoking for years, 5-6 times a day minimum. when I stop smoking, i cant eat, i get cold sweats, and my body just all around feels like shit! thats the physical.
I also become very anxious, and have a very very hard time focusing. these are the mental. It’s very addictive if you smoke all day, everyday for long periods of time. but then again, im sure ANYTHING used all day everyday can become addictive.
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This is good news indeed.
why not a standard sales tax?
I’m excited, even if the prices here in California will raise. It’s going to be worth it.
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wow maybe some bright spark in new zealand may see the light and legislate something like this oneday ,but im not holding my breath….unless ha ha?
oh whoa yo i pay 1 cent a pound and anything beleow that i get free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
i didn’t read all of those comments, but legal weed would be sweet.
also, $80 for an eighth is a huge rip-off. AK from akron, ohio is $60 - $65 an eighth and is absolutely amazing.. one hit highs.
“Buy an eighth of White Widow, get a gram of Northern Lights free!”
Free market pot selling. Who could be against that?
No You all have it wrong! Regardless of what that guy gets his bud for. I buy pounds coming out to about 170 and oz. take a road trip to the east coast sell em at 400, 500, 600, and much much more depending on the bud. legalize in cali. and i make more in the east.
I would love them to legalize it. Not because i’d buy it, but because then all you would shut the fuck up about your “prices” and stop with the inane bickering, because everyone would pay the same. you’re not cool, no matter what you pay for weed. keep that in mind
California’s legalization of pot would be a HUGE step in the right direction. I think by 2050 weed could be legal in the U.S.
Great news! Being from the NW, where the nugs flow like wine, the going rate for an eighth is 40$. Sometimes 50$ if its out of this world. So for all you whiners talking about different prices your problem is your in the wrong place. Weed should be sold like cigarettes. A pack of 20 class A joints that weight around a gram a piece should be no more than 10 dollars. If it does get legalized and is expensive then taxed on top of that, well lets just say, alot of people will learn to grow!
check the news people the feds bust medical pot stores all the time, federal law trumps state when then the feds still classify it as a schedule 1 drug!
however Barney Franks and Ron Paul have introduced bill #5843 decriminalizing marijuana and making it legal to possess up to 100 grams so call your congressman and senators and tell them you support this bill and so should they!
make that H.R. #5843 and call your congressman, senators aren’t involved yet!
A sheriff can tell the FEDS to get outta town under penalty of arrest. It has happened recently in one of the midwest states,… um,… Nevada or Wyoming. (I forget the state, and no I’m not a pothead!) And the Supreme court ruled it constitutional.
I am all for the legalization of marijuana. Its adverse effects are far fewer than those of alcohol or tobacco. But I just have to play the devil’s advocate, so try to think about this as well.
One reason that it has taken so long for the government to consider legalization is that traditionally, marijuana has not been a popular crop in the US. Think about it- even before its ban, how much were people growing? Where did it occur naturally? Tobacco was a HUGE cash crop, and because of that, the government makes a TON of money off of it. They can tax it as high as they want, people will still be buying it. Alcohol is the same way.
Of course, they can still tax weed, but especially in the beginning, it won’t be a huge moneymaker for them.
Also-
One thing I’m worried about is the purity of the product. In the Netherlands this doesn’t seem to be a problem, but you never know. The ability to grow and sell your own could lead to government production, if it seems profitable enough. Once the government is regulating the production, who knows what could be put into it. Cigarettes are a great example. Sure, tobacco has nicotene and tar and a bunch of bad shit in it, but cigarettes are not purely tobacco. The companies add other things to make them cheaper to produce, as well as more addictive.
Just some of my thoughts on the issue.
OMG you guys realize that the price issue is bullshit.
in the last 3 weeks i bought 2 eighths one for 75 the other for 25..clearly it a quality issue
the $75 sour deisel got me high off one hit
the $25 dollar shitty mids was all shake and stems amd i smoked a gram for a little buzz
I wish that would happen in PA… and if your paying $80 for an eighth, I have a bridge to sell you in brooklyn.
Its so funny, when the government can make money off of it, then it will become legal. a $5 tax is ridiculous.
u guys should come to india.. u have no idea how cheap it is here.
well for one an eighth is 20$ 2 u can tax weed cuz its a plant that comes from a seed….. seeds grow…
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